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Justin, "The Shoe Snob"

Tuesday, January 15, 2013

Reader Question - Value of Quality??

Crockett & Jones - Clifford, Courtesy of Rugged Old Salt

A reader recently asked me a question that I found to be quite pertinent to the interest of the average shoe purchaser who may not have unlimited funds. Please see question below:

"I wanted to get your opinion on quality/worth since I am not knowledgeable to the same extent as someone in your position. 

I need a pair of black cap toe dress shoe and have managed to narrow it down to two options:
1. C&J Belgrave Black Calf - Handgrade. (I have the Belgrave in chestnut and its a very nice shoe - relative to my budget)
2. EG Chelsea Black Calf in the 202 last. 

I guess the real question is - do you feel the price difference between the C&J ($750 USD at the C&J NYC store) versus EG's ($1150 USD at Leffot) is justified by purchasing the EG over the C&J's. In essence, is the EG $400 better constructed, better sourced leather, going to last longer, etc? It must be said that I can't casually spend an additional $400 on the EG's so its really a question of saving a little longer and paying some additional $$$ for a better overall product. Or should I be considering the JL City II or G&G's Oxford? It seems to become very difficult to judge quality/worth once shoes reach the $1k mark."
Crockett & Jones - Belgrave
Edward Green - Chelsea, Courtesy of Leffot

While the instinct in me would be to say, "yes, the G&G or EG is definitely a better shoe," the side of me that tells myself that I need to answer the question, not truly as a Snob but more so as an understanding and practical individual that puts things into true perspective. I thought about it for a second, collected an answer and was about to answer it via email but rather decided that it would be something that I am sure that many of you could also benefit from hearing. That being, allow me to elaborate on the upper echelons of the shoe industry, what separates these products and how things are either justified or unjustified.

Gaziano & Girling - Oxford, Courtesy of Leffot

John Lobb - City II

There are typically three things that you pay for in a shoe: 1. Quality of materials (i.e. leather grades, and how much leather is used), 2. The cost of labor (i.e. construction), 3. Finishing (i.e. handwork done on shoe to make look more finessed/elegant). After a certain point, when the shoe is being used only by 1st grade leathers/materials and the shoes are of goodyear welted construction or even hand-welted, the only thing left to pay for is the difference between handwork put in to the finishing/detailing of the shoe. From a practicality standpoint, the detailing does not make the shoe last longer, but it does make the shoe look a whole lot nicer and possibly feel more comfortable (in the instance of arch stiffeners and hand lasting). That being, if money is not an issue, then one would most likely go for what is not only of the best quality but also of the best attention to detail, i.e. a John Lobb, Edward Green or Gaziano & Girling, and Aubercy etc. But when one does not have unlimited funds but wants to get a top quality shoe, then the best thing would be to get a shoe that doesn't necessarily have all of that fancy finishing but rather, is well-made, using high quality materials.




So, to answer the readers' question, in reference to his statement, "better constructed, better sourced leather, going to last longer," I will say that no, it is not worth (to a gentleman that is on a budget) to save up an extra $400 to go up to the next level. A Handgrade C&J, if treated properly should last just as long as EG or G&G or John Lobb etc...Would I do it however? Well, that is another story, as I have a sickness for shoes, but as I said, answering from a practical standpoint, I can say that a Handgrade Crockett & Jones is going to hold up just like an EG or G&G will, it just won't have as much fancy detailing.

By the way, Simon Crompton of Permanent Style managed to find out a bit with regards to the continuation of the company of Stefano Bemer since his passing. He wrote about it HERE if any of you were interested in knowing more.....

4 comments:

  1. Justin,

    Firstly, I'm sure you're right. Like many luxury products, once you get past "good", it's often a case of diminishing returns. But if you have the money, and/or the "sickness" as you put it, then there's nothing to discuss!

    A question: could you please identify the three sole shapes you showed?

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  2. Well stated Justin. And for the reader asking the question, you can't go wrong with C&J. I own a few pair. Very solid classic shoes with a little flair. As for the shoe "sickness" Justin, I am sure you are in good company. I've been ill for years with it. Lol.

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  3. Given that you are about to launch your own range of shoes, I'm surprised you've missed out a fourth thing you pay for in a shoe (or any article of apparel): design, e.g. the elegance of the last and the choice (rather than quality) of the finishing. It may not cost more to produce a beautifully designed shoe than an ugly one, but it normally costs more to buy one.

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  4. Alex B - Soles, L to R - Crockett & Jones handgrade, G&G benchgrade line, G&G Deco line

    MarkLA - I think that everyone that participates in this blog is...a bunch of shoe maniacs!! :-)

    Anon - I guess that I just clumped that with the third grouping. Maybe I should not have title it Finishing. But i meant all things that are not really tangible but that make the shoe look nice...like last making, pattern making, designing and then all of the hand work that goes into finishing them...but yes you are right, it should have been it's own category...Thanks!

    -Justin

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